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Flash Poll: Romney Won Debate, Political Insiders Say

Although the verdict in our Red and Blue California survey fell mostly along party lines, even Democrats found few good things to say about Obama’s showing.

California political insiders on both sides of the spectrum came away from Wednesday night’s presidential debate underwhelmed by President Obama’s performance, with two-thirds of respondents to a Patch survey saying Mitt Romney carried the evening.

Patch sent a quick, unscientific poll to our roster of Democratic and Republican party activists in the hours immediately following the debate; 24 Republicans and 15 Democrats responded.

Eighty-eight percent of Republicans said Romney had won the debate by a wide margin, while none dubbed Obama the winner.

“Romney was poised, calm and presidential,” one Republican said. “Obama was a deer in the headlights and looked scared.”

While 40 percent of Democratic respondents said Obama had won, a full third gave the victory to Romney, and the remaining 27 percent were neutral.

“Where was my President?! He was not present,” one Democrat lamented.

“The surge is to Romney,” said another.

Disappointment with the president’s performance didn’t stop Democrats from criticizing Romney’s lack of specific policy proposals on issues like healthcare and cutting the deficit.

“Romney doesn't even know the details of his plans. He'll find that out when he gets his marching orders from the Republican leadership when he meets with [them] after his inauguration,” a third Democrat quipped.

But Republican insiders disagreed, saying Romney was “in command” and “knew his facts and information.”

Ninety-two percent of Republicans said the debate would give a leg up to Romney’s campaign, which has struggled in recent weeks, while 60 percent of Democrats said the same of their candidate.

Respondents from both parties agreed that media pundits would crown Romney the victor. And they found something else to agree upon, too: the evening’s other loser.

“The loser in the debate was the moderator [PBS’s Jim Lehrer] who lost control of the format,” said one Republican, voicing an opinion also expressed by several Democrats. “However, that led to a better format of each candidate responding to the other’s statements in real time.”

The two candidates will meet again Oct. 16 in Hempstead, New York, where they’ll answer audience questions on foreign and domestic policy.

Who do you think dominated Wednesday’s debate? How do you think it will affect the election? Tell us in the comments.

The Red and Blue California Surveys

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in California.

See the list of Republican and Democratic participants at the end of this article.

All of these individuals have agreed to participate in surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. 

Patch will be conducting Red California and Blue California surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of Republicans and Democrats on the ground in California. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that take just a few minutes to answer, please email Sandra Oshiro.

Angel October 4, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Finally, someone with some leadership skills & a plan to get us out of this economic crisis!!
Romney won that debate without a doubt!!! Let's hope the American people can see who is best for this Country! If ya haven't done it in 4 yrs ... It's time to get out!!!!! Americans don't want Socialism.!!!! Oh wait, just the entitled & welfare recipients they want everything for free!!!! Get off your butt & work for it like everyone else!!!!!!!!
Karen Devine October 4, 2012 at 01:12 pm
Laurie, haven't you heard of the "working poor"? They are working! Also, some people just need a leg up until the economy improves. Everyone wants a good paying job with benefits, but those are few are far between. Obama is still trying to fix things from the Bush administration. I believe Obama is leading us in the right direction. It will take time. Romney has a disdain for the poor and middle class as evidenced in the secretly taped video at the fund raiser..
Kimberly October 4, 2012 at 01:26 pm
Amen Laurie!
Joker Joe October 4, 2012 at 01:27 pm
Disappointment with the president’s performance didn’t stop Democrats from criticizing Romney’s lack of specific policy proposals on issues like healthcare and cutting the deficit.
I guess the Dems were not listening to Romney. He told them HIS plan for healthcare. It went like this! You can keep what you have or get vouchers to see if you could get a better deal on healt insurance. He also said he would abolish Obamacare. Romney told us how he would cut the budget but again Dems did not hear well. He said he would cut out some corporate loop holes as well as go after programs that were paid for by the government that were not working. The rest of the monies he would consult with congress on. Dems and Rep. You can dig into him all you want but this man has a plan and is not an empty suit.
Joker Joe October 4, 2012 at 01:31 pm
Working poor......
Most working poor have wayyyy to many children and are having more. Most working poor are illegals paying no taxes and breeding out of season. Most working poor have no plan for life except to feed off the government teat. (taxpayer $$) If you want to contribute MORE to them than cut back on foreign aid to countries that hate us and give it to the working poor in the U.S. I can live with that but make sure they are U.S. citizens only.....
Rebecca Goddard October 4, 2012 at 01:39 pm
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/al-gore-blames-denvers-high-altitude-for-obamas-lackluster-debate-performance/
And the blaming lefters are blaming the altitude on Baracks poor performance. All I can say is WOW! Everytime I think they have sunk as low as they can go, they go a little bit lower.
Ann Sue October 4, 2012 at 03:21 pm
Just have to say: Romney cares about America and all of its people, no disdain for poor. The 47%? Can you spell: exasperation. Sometimes some people just don't want to help themselves.
JR October 4, 2012 at 04:22 pm
That was an epic beatdown that made Jimmy Carter look competent.
Veronica Gonzalez October 4, 2012 at 04:57 pm
Mitt can said wherever but still is not clear about what is going to do to solve the crisis, that by the way, was generated for the Republican party. I am an immigrant, a small business owner, a citizen of the United States, an employer for some families, and I PAY MY TAXES! So, Mitt I am in the 47% of the people for whom you don't care. I love my country and I am very sad to see that so many people do not understand that there has to be changes to do; we need a honest President that take risk for all the people. And finally, racism is for uneducated, please expand your horizon and you will see things differently.
Dusty W Otero October 4, 2012 at 05:16 pm
A theatrical performance by Mitt romney..he looked like a Bobble Head caffeine freak...I liked the way Obama just smiled at him and was so cool Honest and not wanting to scratch back at Mitt ,,who was so phoney,,,He rehearsed his night of debating more than any other President in History lol HE IS A DESPERATE MAN...wait till the american people vote ,,,and than what will the Republican party have to lie about ,,,so many lies ;last night wow amazing and he and his God...
Dusty W Otero October 4, 2012 at 05:19 pm
I like what u said ,,there party is so desperate now they will do anything to win,and if they do not win om goodness they will be out to block every bill that hits the floor,,,just a bunch of old Tea baggers...
Joker Joe October 4, 2012 at 05:21 pm
Dusty
You are lost dude. Read all the reviews. BO's smirk and looking down at the podium did nothing to enhance the empty suit... lol lol He had no record to run on. His fall back was Bush from years ago.
Joker Joe October 4, 2012 at 05:23 pm
Veronica
If you are all that you say, "HE WAS NOT REFERRING TO YOU". I WILL SAY THOUGH THAT YOU DO NOT SEEM THAT QUICK.
Jim Sparks October 4, 2012 at 05:34 pm
Karen,
Please read up on Obama's record and his philosophy. If you go to the polls with your current shallow knowledge, you should not be allowed to vote. Jim Sparks
Joker Joe October 4, 2012 at 05:42 pm
Jim
That's why they should require voter id. Anddd a little card for intelligence... lol
Ann Sue October 4, 2012 at 05:48 pm
Veronica.. If you own and run your own business and employ people, and make enough money to pay taxes...,then what are you worried about. You are not the 47%, UNLESS, you're not being truthful ??
Rich Mamora October 4, 2012 at 06:31 pm
Mit is being honest. I am an immigrant also, I could see that Mit cares about this country and it's citizen. Obama is Islam. You know? Islam plan is to invade this greate nation and total Islamites it. And if Sarih law implemented, you Ms. Gonzales do not have right to your small bussiness. By the way you build your own bussiness right???, You don't see it yet, but just...wait and see if Obama gets re-elected, Islam will have more power in this nation. If they have more power...they will have more terorists.The economy? Obviously the president didn't even pass Ec.101. Do not be too shallow about the 44% pal.
Donna Smith October 4, 2012 at 07:07 pm
Oh my gosh....that is laughable!! Thanks for posting, Rebecca! :)
Jay Lopez October 4, 2012 at 07:32 pm
I feel I have alot at stake in this election, I'm an unemployed male latino, in my sixties but can't afford retirement so I'm working whatever job I can find and will continue looking for full-time work without much prospects. I'm a Democrat, have been all my life and I have voted democrat in every presidential election since I was 21. I live in California and I'm trying to keep my home so I voted for Uhbama 4 years ago and have been greatly disappointed ever since. I listened to Uhbama last night and I'm leaning towards Romney to make a statement even though I know my vote for Romney will be "lost in California".
Joker Joe October 5, 2012 at 11:49 am
Jay
Very well said. I have been saying that for over a year. Hard to get others to believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
Joker Joe October 5, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Isn't Gore the one that invented the internet???
Joker Joe October 5, 2012 at 12:02 pm
If you think Gore is funny, wait until Joe Biden debates. That guy is a riot!!
I think that debate is sponsored by "Comedy Central".
Angel October 5, 2012 at 12:38 pm
@Jay... Just like most Americans you cannot retire & it's sad... You are a hard worker & it's tough working odds & end jobs to make things meet... I wish you all the best!!
Voting for Romney I think would be a smart move!! :) As for BoBo you hit the nail on the head Paul & Biden .... Goin at it... Haha!! This will be good.. Biden won't know what hit em!! Btw... Has anyone seen the gas prices?? Way to go!!!
Joker Joe October 5, 2012 at 01:31 pm
Lauri
Thank you for your kind remark but I have to warn you if you keep it up I will keep posting. lol
BTB October 7, 2012 at 11:30 am
No worries... "Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive". Makes me feel safe and secure.

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