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New Stadium Approved for El Toro High

Saddleback Valley Unified unanimously approves bleachers and lights for the field over objections of residents who fear more noise and traffic.

The Saddleback Valley Unified board has approved installation of bleachers and lights at El Toro High School’s sports field, according to a report in the Orange County Register.

That means the school's football, lacrosse, soccer and track teams will be able to play at home instead of traveling to other area fields. And the school can hold graduation ceremonies on campus instead of at UCI’s Bren Center.

The Tuesday night school board vote was unanimous despite complaints by residents worried about noise and traffic.

The revamp is expected to start in May and finish in August. Read the full Register story here.

Andromeda November 14, 2012 at 07:26 PM
We should have local votes for issues like this instead of bureaucrats making the decisions for the community. A voting system like that is workable but the bureaucrats don't want to give up their power. The bureaucrats will always follow the money. They don't care what the majority of the people want. The stadium will certainly interfere with peace and quiet in surrounding neighborhoods and traffic would be horrendous for local residents when the events take place. Was there a survey of community opinion on the stadium before this decision was made? Why not? And why didn't the Patch report on the approval of the satellite horse race wagering restaurant by the Planning Commission? Don't the residents have a right to know that gambling has now been introduced into Lake Forest? I bet there wasn't any survey conducted on that either to determine whether there was resident consensus, was there??? It's ALL about the money. Just be honest.
Mick November 15, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Spend, spend, spend. I know...it's for the children.
MFriedrich November 15, 2012 at 03:49 AM
The modular classrooms at all K-12 Lake Forest Schools damn well better be upgraded already before they even break ground on this new football stadium.
Ron Melnyk November 15, 2012 at 04:06 AM
I want to make sure that I'm not living in a dream world and that this really happening. There will a 4-5 million dollar project build in my back yard. The stewardship of the project will be handed over to a group of administrators who can not even keep their own back yard clean and presentable. Tell me that every night when I walk around ETHS, and yes, sometimes through with my trusty four legged companion, (YES, I do clean up after my loyal friend) that all the neglect I see (plastic cups, food wrappings, empty liquor bottles, actual food itself, cigarette butts and yes of course dog waste). This is not to ignore the grounds themselves, fully mature plants growing through chain link fences ostructing the sidewalks and botancial debris. Ive never seen so many weeds in my life. I don't understand, have they not heard of rakes or blowers, or are they not in the budget? These folks will be in charge of all that pertains to the new stadium. Holy cow, Dorthy click your heels and wake me up. Please.
Homer November 15, 2012 at 04:28 PM
The condition of every school is determined by the budget expenditures of the school principal. That said, the school officials would be best served by out-sourcing those services. Of course, the philosophy and work ethic trickles down from the very top.
Homer November 15, 2012 at 04:30 PM
Unfortunately, that needed improvement will not be performed.
Homer November 15, 2012 at 04:32 PM
We just had a public vote, this month. Several school District board members were elected. The local residents had the option to vote their mind.
Richard November 15, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Land use decisions on state run public school property are largely out of the local governments control. Nobody should get upset with the City commissions and staff.
Jim Richert November 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM
What a terrible thing to build right next door to people's homes. 70' light poles, hundreds of cars with no place to park except in the adjoining neighborhoods, tons of trash that everyone in the Lake II association will now pay to pick up. There is plenty of land in Lake Forest to build an offsite stadium that the voters approved years ago. So much for any good neighbor policy by the school district.
MFriedrich November 16, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Then there will be hell to pay. http://www.svusd.org/hp_images/4922/D86427-Measure%20B%20Newsletter_Sept%202012.pdf
LaxMom November 16, 2012 at 06:19 PM
I'm so excited for the stadium. Can't wait for some home games at ETHS!
Andromeda November 16, 2012 at 07:36 PM
Wait until they cancel high school football season because there's no more money left to fund school athletics. Then we'll see how happy you are.
LaxMom November 16, 2012 at 07:41 PM
School athletics are funded by parents already. Being able to host home games and tournaments will help fundraising, save money in transportation fees and make me a very happy parent:-)
CW November 16, 2012 at 08:08 PM
I suggest that homeowners around the area find a way to get the street parking restricted so that homeowners will have a place to park near their own home. It may be in the form of the parking decal or hanger. It can be done - just look at the restrictions around the Anaheim convention center or around shopping centers in LA. You may not have a way to stop what goes on at the school property but certainly you can have a voice about what happens on your street. I believe the Lake Forest City Council is be the group that has the final say on this.
CW November 16, 2012 at 08:12 PM
LAXMOM- nice that school sports are (partially) funded by parents (and neighbors who buy wrapping paper and candy etc.!). How about the parents funding teachers so they won't need to spend their own money on getting supplies.
Ron Melnyk November 16, 2012 at 08:29 PM
The hosting of football games and now tournaments make a very,very sad parent. When and how did tournaments get into the picture ?
LaxMom November 16, 2012 at 08:40 PM
I've never heard so much whining in my life. I pay my taxes, pay extra fees to each teacher and fund my children's athletics. Do residences surrounding Trabuco High School with two schools using their facility complain this much? Sorry, my opinion is this new stadium will be great for the student body and the community. It's seems many others do too since this project was approved. Go Chargers!!! Happy dance:-)
Ron Melnyk November 16, 2012 at 08:49 PM
It's interesting that you would use the term whining. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, I don't think that anyone has referred to you in a negative term. It's easy to call the kettle black, when no one knows who you are.
LaxMom November 16, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Excuse me, I apologize if my comment was offensive. Let me say the focus seems to be very negative. I just want to share my opinion that I feel this project will be great and I'm looking forward to it.
Ron Melnyk November 16, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Let's be clear, no one questions your ability and/or your right to speak your mind. It's the name calling that is objectable. I personally do not know of anyone who enjoys being called a whiner. When you say "if my comment was offensive" I find that laughable and have doubts of your sincerity.
LaxMom November 16, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Ron- whining is a verb. No name calling here. Lets please stay on topic.
Ron Melnyk November 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Oh, pardon me. I always thought that someone who whined was a whiner. Yes, please let's stay on topic.
Schwab Apiaries November 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Lights....Lights....Trash....Congestion....I really think the residents NEAR the proposed construction will see property values fall. Property values don't go up when things like this are built. The city can't do anything about it. But GREAT for ETH. By the way, game nights at Trabuco High look like alot of light pollution, noise pollution. That's what were talking about right? POLLUTION. I wonder how supportive everyone will be when they figure out most of these games / tournaments will be for other special groups, teams, schools other than El Toro High...LOL Its time to move maggie, sell the farm.....
JMTobias November 19, 2012 at 08:11 PM
These types of projects are happening all over California. There is some sort of push for these mega athletic facilities. They are not needed and are generally pushed through by a few aggressive parents and a "compliant" school district. We need to all take a look at how school dollars are being spent. Our academic outcomes in California are terrible, but for some reason, there is ALWAYS money for these types of building projects.
JMTobias November 19, 2012 at 08:21 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Malibu-Community-Alliance/127496454069076 http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoceanedge/ http://www.tfasbs.org/TFASBS.HTML These are just a few of the groups that are fighting this battle. High intensity stadium lighting, generally promoted by a company called Musco, is gaining a foothold up and down the state. Just so you know, it is not over for this neighborhood. There are ways to fight it. Get organized and get ready. Please visit our facebook page and take a look at what lights have done to our neighborhood in Malibu. Visit the website of the group in San Diego and see what 100 foot poles look like in a residential setting. See what is going to happen in San Francisco in a National Park. These lights have NOTHING to do with kids. This is about revenue.
JMTobias November 19, 2012 at 08:30 PM
One last thing. The lights at Malibu High consist of four 70 foot tall poles. The lighting expert that we hired compared the light emitted from these lights to 15,000 full moons.
JMTobias November 19, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if that were actually true! This has NOTHING to do with the children. This is about revenue. Take a look at the company that provides these lights. They are being installed up and down California.
JMTobias November 19, 2012 at 09:20 PM
No EIR was done. Since school districts operate as lead agencies SMMUSD was able to submit a MND in place of an EIR. And I am fairly certain the only reason that they had to to submit anything is the fact that this involved the Coastal Commission. The person running the San Diego group has a more similar experience to your situation.

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